After reading tons of reviews I decided to go a size up. As described, they are super bulky in width of chamois panel and kinda loose in the waist. Unfortunately washing them did not make chamois more pliable. Decided to give them a ride and 50 miles later, no issues at all. Takeaway for me..order true size. I have big legs and still would have been fine. Ignore how they feel while walking, they make up for it on the bike. Good stretch and temp control. I think correct size would have given my hood compression. I�ll likely order another pair in the appropriate size.
